Does anyone in cable news says that does not require proof of citizenship will receive Govt. Insurance?
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March 6th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Obama was only technicaly right. In spirit Obama is a liar.
March 6th, 2010 at 9:44 am
What ever happened to being concise?
March 6th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Gee why don’t you fly there and tell them. There are ways of keeping track to assure that they are citizens SS cards) Yes I know they can be forged all the more reason to throw those that do that in prison or out of the country.
March 6th, 2010 at 10:27 am
FOX IS ALL OVER IT.I DOUBT THAT THE REST WILL BE NO ONE WANTS TO UPSET OBUMMER.
March 6th, 2010 at 10:35 am
So you support the idea of a National ID card then.
March 6th, 2010 at 11:23 am
I’m sure state IDs and maybe even birth certificates would be required and verified.
March 6th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Funny on CNN interview he said no to illegals but in the same breath supported giving it to illegal children. No one wants to talk about that either.
March 6th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Clearly both sides are spinning the issue here. The right is wrong to claim Obama is a liar and the left is wrong to claim that it’s 100% solid that only legal residents of the US will be able to access the care.
Honestly, one problem for me is that there are many poor people without any form of identification. Identification is NOT a requirement for citiczenship nor is a resdient of the US required to have identification. Generational poverty is real. That said, I do agree that there needs to be SOME kind of system in place to ensure legal access.
Laws will always be broken. Illegal residentls likely WILL access the care just as they work here illegaly currently. However, that doesn’t mean to me that we shouldn’t provide acces to care to legal residents. Yes, it’s a problem that illegal residents may access government health care. Is it a huge problem? Not for me. It’s far less costly than the waste that goes into health care now and health corporations do FAR more damage in the name of profit to the costs of care when compared to illegal residents. It’s mind boggling to me that we ignore what corporations do in the name of profit, yet villify what good and decent humans do for health. Esepescially because the former costs FAR more than the latter. If people are worried about cost, we should first concern ourselves with those things that cost the most. Illegal residents is not one of them.
March 6th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Given that the coverage will cost something out of the paychecks of those who opt for this proposed ‘public option’, simply being ‘illegal’ shouldn’t really exclude these people….the more folks paying in the lower the cost for everyone. Of course there’s been a strong push back by the GOP against any laws that would punish employers from hiring illegal aliens. Let’s be real. These illegals wouldn’t have a paycheck to tax for HEALTH INSURANCE if they were denied employment in the first place. Give that a think!
March 6th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
I don’t want to give coverage to illegals either but you have to realize that this is a little more complicated than just what’s in the bill. My understanding is that Obama is leaving it up to an administrative agency to determine how best to prevent coverage being given to illegals. It’s his prerogative to do this and he’s not wrong for doing so. Many details such as this are left up to agencies. Although I should add I think he’s politically wrong for doing so.
Anyway, it’s entirely possible they’ll promulgate some half ***ed regulations that will allow illegals to get health care. On the other hand, they may promulgate effective ones. If the bill passes, and I think it will, you should educate yourself on the regulatory process and submit comments to the appropriate agencies before they make the rules.